(David and Frank are listening to a radio interview of Karen and a senator about gun control)

Senator: Guns are a toxin in our society. In the wrong hands, they wreak terrible results. It's barely a year since this city was terrorized by the Punisher.

Karen Page: You know, uh, that's hardly the same thing. Frank Castle killed murderers and drug dealers.

Senator: But where's the line, Karen? Frank Castle decided he knew better than the law and was tried for killing 37 people.

Karen Page: Frank Castle's not a terrorist.

David Lieberman: Thirty-seven?

Frank Castle: That they know about.

Radio host: Castle was a hero to many who felt that he was doing what cops failed to do.